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| Topic: [MOD] How to get good advice from m.b.m.m. v.1.01 |
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| [MOD] How to get good advice from m.b.m.m. v.1.01 [message #1121] |
Sat, 14 August 2010 13:41 |
stj
Messages: 10
Registered: March 2008 |
Junior Member |
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If you are looking for business advice, do the following:
1) Give as much detail as you can. Take your time. The more information
you give, the better advice regulars here will be able to give you.
Describe your problem as if you were telling it to Sherlock Holmes in his
study. NEVER assume regulars are telepathic! All we know about you and
your problem is what you tell us. If you have a website, give us its URL.
If you have print ads, text of mailings, radio ads, or TV ads, provide
hyperlinks to jpeg, mp3, and mpeg/asf/mov of them. You will NOT bore us
with details. Oh, and remember this newsgroup is an international
newsgroup so don't assume people telepathically know which country you're
in.
2) Don't necessarily expect to receive answers with your first post.
Expect instead to receive questions. Answer these questions promptly and
expect more in return. Once the regulars feel they have an adequate
understanding of your situation and problem, they then might feel they can
offer you some useful advise.
3) Be active. After you post, check this newsgroup at least once a day and
reply to all posts. Take the time to give detailed replies. Don't rush
here either. Give as full of a reply as possible. The more you're active
and the more in-depth your replies, the more regulars will participate in
your thread and the more help you'll receive.
4) Keep it clean. The ones that are probably going to help you the most
will be the professionals that frequent this newsgroup. Unless you'd like
to be put into their kill-files, treat them with respect and don't waste
their time. Many of these professionals regularly check this group from
work during the little breaks in their workday. While more details are
better than too few, adding too much unrelated junk will only confuse the
situation and reduce the usefulness, readability, and value of your post.
Take a moment and streamline your replies. Reduce the header down to just
who is saying which lines. Do NOT simply repost the entire message if
you're only referring to a part of it. Without distorting what they wrote,
trim down what they said to just what you're replying to. Also, do NOT top
post. Top posting forces people to scroll down then back up to your reply.
Think logical progression of thought. Again, it will reduce the time the
professionals need to spend reading your post thus more time they'll have -
during their coffee break -- to reply to your post.
5) Return and let us know what happened. Title your post the same as your
original one and add "[update]" at the end of the subject line. Again, put
as much effort into it as you'd like regulars to give to their replies.
Tell what worked, what didn't, ups, downs, and surprises. Use this as an
opportunity to ask further questions. Bless us with the pearls of wisdom
you learned along the way. Also, remember this is a nice way to thank
those that helped you. Some regulars sometimes feel used and cheap when
those they help never return to let them know what happened. They also
remember those that do and next time you have another problem, they'll be
that much more willing to devote time and effort to help you when you come
around again.
Lastly, remember that the advice you're getting here is worth exactly what
you paid for it. While professionals do frequent this newsgroup, they do
so at their leisure and their advice is informal. If you want better
advice, hire a professional.
Scott Jensen, co-moderator
misc.business.marketing.moderated
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| | Topic: MOD: Business Newsgroup Policies |
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| MOD: Business Newsgroup Policies [message #1120] |
Sat, 14 August 2010 13:41 |
Jim Logajan
Messages: 17
Registered: March 2008 |
Junior Member |
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|
INTRODUCTION
------------
The newsgroups misc.business.marketing.moderated, misc.business.moderated,
misc.business.consulting, and misc.entrepreneurs.moderated are moderated
discussion groups. This periodic post summarizes the current posting
policies all posters are expected to follow for these four newsgroups.
Please read this policy document before posting.
James Hill, Scott Jensen, Jim Logajan, and Nikolai Chuvakhin are the current
business newsgroups volunteer moderators. You may contact us collectively
by sending e-mail to: business-moderators at Lugoj com (substitute "@" for
" at " and insert a "." between Lugoj and com).
If your post does not appear within 48 hours and you haven't seen a
rejection e-mail from us, then it is possible your post never made it to us
or the rejection never made it to you. In such cases you should e-mail us
at the address listed above. On rare occasions a post that is borderline
may require discussion among the moderators, which may take a few days to
run to completion.
To help you determine which newsgroup your post would be most appropriate
in and what is acceptable to post, excerpts from the original charters are
included below, followed by a list of things that will be rejected from all
four groups:
MISC.BUSINESS.MODERATED
-----------------------
"The newsgroup misc.business.moderated [is] a moderated forum for
discussion and debate involving all aspects of business not presently being
served by other business newsgroups. It [is] a newsgroup where professors,
managers, entrepreneurs, students and anyone interested in business can
establish contacts, share, learn and exchange practical and theoretical
business thoughts from the world over."
MISC.BUSINESS.CONSULTING
------------------------
"Misc.business.consulting is a forum for discussions concerning the
business issues of consulting. More specifically, this refers to matters
such as tax rulings, clarification of accounting treatments, techniques for
client management, discussions of ethics, advice for beginning consultants,
contract provisions, etc. This should not be taken to totally exclude
technical issues from being raised, when they are framed in the context of
the business of consulting."
MISC.BUSINESS.MARKETING.MODERATED
---------------------------------
"The newsgroup misc.business.marketing.moderated [is] a moderated forum for
discussion and debate involving all aspects of marketing. It [is] a
newsgroup where professors, managers, entrepreneurs, students and anyone
interested in marketing can establish contacts, share, learn and exchange
practical and theoretical marketing thoughts from the world over."
MISC.ENTREPRENEURS.MODERATED
----------------------------
"The newsgroup is for the purposes of moderated discussion of
entrepreneurial and small-business topics, like: starting a business,
finding capital, running operations, controlling costs, obtaining
appropriate products and services, handling employees, filing patents,
handling tax laws, obtaining credit-card and check processing, etc."
MESSAGE CATEGORIES SUBJECT TO REJECTION
---------------------------------------
The following message categories are subject to rejection (or warnings,
where noted) in all four newsgroups. Except where noted, an attempt will be
made to e-mail the original poster (OP) when their post has been rejected.
SPAM
Posts that are obvious spam are rejected without informing the poster. Spam
is considered to include advertising and promotional messages and messages
sent in bulk to multiple destinations (whether the content is topical or
not).
ADVERTISING
The rare posts that appear to us to be sincerely misdirected ads or "job
wanted" posts will be rejected with a response. Likewise, responses to
posts seeking product or service recommendations that appear to be attempts
to sell the OP products or services will be rejected. If you are trying to
sell something to the OP, you should contact them directly if they have
indicated such sales pitches are welcome.
PERSONAL ATTACKS
Excessively personal attacks (ad hominem) will be rejected. It is quite
acceptable to post disagreements to a poster's ideas or advice, but it is
not acceptable to attack the poster personally.
SURVEYS
Requests for readers to fill out a survey (whether by e-mail or on a web
site) may be rejected because such requests will yield a statistically
invalid population of responses - yielding dangerously misleading results
for the poster and a waste of time for respondents. Other times these
surveys are thinly disguised mechanisms for promoting some product or
service.
MIME/HTML
If an on topic posting arrives in MIME or HTML, we will try to clean it up
to plain text if it appears to be the first posting by a poster. A warning
notice is issued to the poster. We reserve the right to reject subsequent
MIME/HTML postings by such persons. Usenet is traditionally plain-text and
the software used by many readers does not support proper rendition of
MIME/HTML.
NEWS, ARTICLES AND ANNOUNCEMENTS
Business news, articles, and announcements are rejected on the grounds that
these are discussion groups, and such things are more appropriate in other
forums. Such things tend to be self-promotional in any case and generally
aren't intended to solicit genuine dialogue.
CROSSPOSTING
Inappropriate cross-posting to other newsgroups may either be rejected or
the list of newsgroups may be trimmed before approval. If trimmed and
approved, the list of newsgroups where the post is considered off topic
will be removed and the poster is warned that their posting will only
appear in the unelided newsgroups.
EXCESSIVE QUOTING AND TOP POSTING
Replies that are top posted, or contain an excessive amount of quoted
material, will not be rejected for those reasons but a warning may be sent
to the poster. We reserve the right to trim or even delete any quoted
material we may deem excessive. An explanation of why we dislike excessive
quoting and top posting is on Google's web site, among others:
http://www.google.com/googlegroups/posting_style.html#summar ize
http://web.presby.edu/~nnqadmin/nnq/nquote.html
OFF TOPIC
If the posting is, in our judgment, off-topic for the newsgroup then we may
reject it. On occasion we do allow follow-up posts to threads to drift off
topic, but are less likely to allow a new thread to be started that begins
off topic.
OTHER
Since it is not possible for us to anticipate and itemize all possible
reasons for rejection, we must reserve the right to reject for reasons not
previously listed. We will however strive to allow as much dialogue as
humanly possible since we realize that posters and readers would abandon
any newsgroup that is moderated in an ad hoc or unjust manner.
Thank you for reading this policy document.
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| | Topic: [MOD] How to get good advice from m.b.m.m. v.1.01 |
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| [MOD] How to get good advice from m.b.m.m. v.1.01 [message #1117] |
Sat, 17 July 2010 13:41 |
stj
Messages: 10
Registered: March 2008 |
Junior Member |
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|
If you are looking for business advice, do the following:
1) Give as much detail as you can. Take your time. The more information
you give, the better advice regulars here will be able to give you.
Describe your problem as if you were telling it to Sherlock Holmes in his
study. NEVER assume regulars are telepathic! All we know about you and
your problem is what you tell us. If you have a website, give us its URL.
If you have print ads, text of mailings, radio ads, or TV ads, provide
hyperlinks to jpeg, mp3, and mpeg/asf/mov of them. You will NOT bore us
with details. Oh, and remember this newsgroup is an international
newsgroup so don't assume people telepathically know which country you're
in.
2) Don't necessarily expect to receive answers with your first post.
Expect instead to receive questions. Answer these questions promptly and
expect more in return. Once the regulars feel they have an adequate
understanding of your situation and problem, they then might feel they can
offer you some useful advise.
3) Be active. After you post, check this newsgroup at least once a day and
reply to all posts. Take the time to give detailed replies. Don't rush
here either. Give as full of a reply as possible. The more you're active
and the more in-depth your replies, the more regulars will participate in
your thread and the more help you'll receive.
4) Keep it clean. The ones that are probably going to help you the most
will be the professionals that frequent this newsgroup. Unless you'd like
to be put into their kill-files, treat them with respect and don't waste
their time. Many of these professionals regularly check this group from
work during the little breaks in their workday. While more details are
better than too few, adding too much unrelated junk will only confuse the
situation and reduce the usefulness, readability, and value of your post.
Take a moment and streamline your replies. Reduce the header down to just
who is saying which lines. Do NOT simply repost the entire message if
you're only referring to a part of it. Without distorting what they wrote,
trim down what they said to just what you're replying to. Also, do NOT top
post. Top posting forces people to scroll down then back up to your reply.
Think logical progression of thought. Again, it will reduce the time the
professionals need to spend reading your post thus more time they'll have -
during their coffee break -- to reply to your post.
5) Return and let us know what happened. Title your post the same as your
original one and add "[update]" at the end of the subject line. Again, put
as much effort into it as you'd like regulars to give to their replies.
Tell what worked, what didn't, ups, downs, and surprises. Use this as an
opportunity to ask further questions. Bless us with the pearls of wisdom
you learned along the way. Also, remember this is a nice way to thank
those that helped you. Some regulars sometimes feel used and cheap when
those they help never return to let them know what happened. They also
remember those that do and next time you have another problem, they'll be
that much more willing to devote time and effort to help you when you come
around again.
Lastly, remember that the advice you're getting here is worth exactly what
you paid for it. While professionals do frequent this newsgroup, they do
so at their leisure and their advice is informal. If you want better
advice, hire a professional.
Scott Jensen, co-moderator
misc.business.marketing.moderated
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| | Topic: MOD: Business Newsgroup Policies |
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| MOD: Business Newsgroup Policies [message #1116] |
Sat, 17 July 2010 13:41 |
Jim Logajan
Messages: 17
Registered: March 2008 |
Junior Member |
|
|
INTRODUCTION
------------
The newsgroups misc.business.marketing.moderated, misc.business.moderated,
misc.business.consulting, and misc.entrepreneurs.moderated are moderated
discussion groups. This periodic post summarizes the current posting
policies all posters are expected to follow for these four newsgroups.
Please read this policy document before posting.
James Hill, Scott Jensen, Jim Logajan, and Nikolai Chuvakhin are the current
business newsgroups volunteer moderators. You may contact us collectively
by sending e-mail to: business-moderators at Lugoj com (substitute "@" for
" at " and insert a "." between Lugoj and com).
If your post does not appear within 48 hours and you haven't seen a
rejection e-mail from us, then it is possible your post never made it to us
or the rejection never made it to you. In such cases you should e-mail us
at the address listed above. On rare occasions a post that is borderline
may require discussion among the moderators, which may take a few days to
run to completion.
To help you determine which newsgroup your post would be most appropriate
in and what is acceptable to post, excerpts from the original charters are
included below, followed by a list of things that will be rejected from all
four groups:
MISC.BUSINESS.MODERATED
-----------------------
"The newsgroup misc.business.moderated [is] a moderated forum for
discussion and debate involving all aspects of business not presently being
served by other business newsgroups. It [is] a newsgroup where professors,
managers, entrepreneurs, students and anyone interested in business can
establish contacts, share, learn and exchange practical and theoretical
business thoughts from the world over."
MISC.BUSINESS.CONSULTING
------------------------
"Misc.business.consulting is a forum for discussions concerning the
business issues of consulting. More specifically, this refers to matters
such as tax rulings, clarification of accounting treatments, techniques for
client management, discussions of ethics, advice for beginning consultants,
contract provisions, etc. This should not be taken to totally exclude
technical issues from being raised, when they are framed in the context of
the business of consulting."
MISC.BUSINESS.MARKETING.MODERATED
---------------------------------
"The newsgroup misc.business.marketing.moderated [is] a moderated forum for
discussion and debate involving all aspects of marketing. It [is] a
newsgroup where professors, managers, entrepreneurs, students and anyone
interested in marketing can establish contacts, share, learn and exchange
practical and theoretical marketing thoughts from the world over."
MISC.ENTREPRENEURS.MODERATED
----------------------------
"The newsgroup is for the purposes of moderated discussion of
entrepreneurial and small-business topics, like: starting a business,
finding capital, running operations, controlling costs, obtaining
appropriate products and services, handling employees, filing patents,
handling tax laws, obtaining credit-card and check processing, etc."
MESSAGE CATEGORIES SUBJECT TO REJECTION
---------------------------------------
The following message categories are subject to rejection (or warnings,
where noted) in all four newsgroups. Except where noted, an attempt will be
made to e-mail the original poster (OP) when their post has been rejected.
SPAM
Posts that are obvious spam are rejected without informing the poster. Spam
is considered to include advertising and promotional messages and messages
sent in bulk to multiple destinations (whether the content is topical or
not).
ADVERTISING
The rare posts that appear to us to be sincerely misdirected ads or "job
wanted" posts will be rejected with a response. Likewise, responses to
posts seeking product or service recommendations that appear to be attempts
to sell the OP products or services will be rejected. If you are trying to
sell something to the OP, you should contact them directly if they have
indicated such sales pitches are welcome.
PERSONAL ATTACKS
Excessively personal attacks (ad hominem) will be rejected. It is quite
acceptable to post disagreements to a poster's ideas or advice, but it is
not acceptable to attack the poster personally.
SURVEYS
Requests for readers to fill out a survey (whether by e-mail or on a web
site) may be rejected because such requests will yield a statistically
invalid population of responses - yielding dangerously misleading results
for the poster and a waste of time for respondents. Other times these
surveys are thinly disguised mechanisms for promoting some product or
service.
MIME/HTML
If an on topic posting arrives in MIME or HTML, we will try to clean it up
to plain text if it appears to be the first posting by a poster. A warning
notice is issued to the poster. We reserve the right to reject subsequent
MIME/HTML postings by such persons. Usenet is traditionally plain-text and
the software used by many readers does not support proper rendition of
MIME/HTML.
NEWS, ARTICLES AND ANNOUNCEMENTS
Business news, articles, and announcements are rejected on the grounds that
these are discussion groups, and such things are more appropriate in other
forums. Such things tend to be self-promotional in any case and generally
aren't intended to solicit genuine dialogue.
CROSSPOSTING
Inappropriate cross-posting to other newsgroups may either be rejected or
the list of newsgroups may be trimmed before approval. If trimmed and
approved, the list of newsgroups where the post is considered off topic
will be removed and the poster is warned that their posting will only
appear in the unelided newsgroups.
EXCESSIVE QUOTING AND TOP POSTING
Replies that are top posted, or contain an excessive amount of quoted
material, will not be rejected for those reasons but a warning may be sent
to the poster. We reserve the right to trim or even delete any quoted
material we may deem excessive. An explanation of why we dislike excessive
quoting and top posting is on Google's web site, among others:
http://www.google.com/googlegroups/posting_style.html#summar ize
http://web.presby.edu/~nnqadmin/nnq/nquote.html
OFF TOPIC
If the posting is, in our judgment, off-topic for the newsgroup then we may
reject it. On occasion we do allow follow-up posts to threads to drift off
topic, but are less likely to allow a new thread to be started that begins
off topic.
OTHER
Since it is not possible for us to anticipate and itemize all possible
reasons for rejection, we must reserve the right to reject for reasons not
previously listed. We will however strive to allow as much dialogue as
humanly possible since we realize that posters and readers would abandon
any newsgroup that is moderated in an ad hoc or unjust manner.
Thank you for reading this policy document.
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| | Topic: [MOD] How to get good advice from m.b.m.m. v.1.01 |
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| [MOD] How to get good advice from m.b.m.m. v.1.01 [message #1109] |
Sat, 19 June 2010 13:41 |
stj
Messages: 10
Registered: March 2008 |
Junior Member |
|
|
If you are looking for business advice, do the following:
1) Give as much detail as you can. Take your time. The more information
you give, the better advice regulars here will be able to give you.
Describe your problem as if you were telling it to Sherlock Holmes in his
study. NEVER assume regulars are telepathic! All we know about you and
your problem is what you tell us. If you have a website, give us its URL.
If you have print ads, text of mailings, radio ads, or TV ads, provide
hyperlinks to jpeg, mp3, and mpeg/asf/mov of them. You will NOT bore us
with details. Oh, and remember this newsgroup is an international
newsgroup so don't assume people telepathically know which country you're
in.
2) Don't necessarily expect to receive answers with your first post.
Expect instead to receive questions. Answer these questions promptly and
expect more in return. Once the regulars feel they have an adequate
understanding of your situation and problem, they then might feel they can
offer you some useful advise.
3) Be active. After you post, check this newsgroup at least once a day and
reply to all posts. Take the time to give detailed replies. Don't rush
here either. Give as full of a reply as possible. The more you're active
and the more in-depth your replies, the more regulars will participate in
your thread and the more help you'll receive.
4) Keep it clean. The ones that are probably going to help you the most
will be the professionals that frequent this newsgroup. Unless you'd like
to be put into their kill-files, treat them with respect and don't waste
their time. Many of these professionals regularly check this group from
work during the little breaks in their workday. While more details are
better than too few, adding too much unrelated junk will only confuse the
situation and reduce the usefulness, readability, and value of your post.
Take a moment and streamline your replies. Reduce the header down to just
who is saying which lines. Do NOT simply repost the entire message if
you're only referring to a part of it. Without distorting what they wrote,
trim down what they said to just what you're replying to. Also, do NOT top
post. Top posting forces people to scroll down then back up to your reply.
Think logical progression of thought. Again, it will reduce the time the
professionals need to spend reading your post thus more time they'll have -
during their coffee break -- to reply to your post.
5) Return and let us know what happened. Title your post the same as your
original one and add "[update]" at the end of the subject line. Again, put
as much effort into it as you'd like regulars to give to their replies.
Tell what worked, what didn't, ups, downs, and surprises. Use this as an
opportunity to ask further questions. Bless us with the pearls of wisdom
you learned along the way. Also, remember this is a nice way to thank
those that helped you. Some regulars sometimes feel used and cheap when
those they help never return to let them know what happened. They also
remember those that do and next time you have another problem, they'll be
that much more willing to devote time and effort to help you when you come
around again.
Lastly, remember that the advice you're getting here is worth exactly what
you paid for it. While professionals do frequent this newsgroup, they do
so at their leisure and their advice is informal. If you want better
advice, hire a professional.
Scott Jensen, co-moderator
misc.business.marketing.moderated
|
|
| | Topic: MOD: Business Newsgroup Policies |
|---|
| MOD: Business Newsgroup Policies [message #1108] |
Sat, 19 June 2010 13:41 |
Jim Logajan
Messages: 17
Registered: March 2008 |
Junior Member |
|
|
INTRODUCTION
------------
The newsgroups misc.business.marketing.moderated, misc.business.moderated,
misc.business.consulting, and misc.entrepreneurs.moderated are moderated
discussion groups. This periodic post summarizes the current posting
policies all posters are expected to follow for these four newsgroups.
Please read this policy document before posting.
James Hill, Scott Jensen, Jim Logajan, and Nikolai Chuvakhin are the current
business newsgroups volunteer moderators. You may contact us collectively
by sending e-mail to: business-moderators at Lugoj com (substitute "@" for
" at " and insert a "." between Lugoj and com).
If your post does not appear within 48 hours and you haven't seen a
rejection e-mail from us, then it is possible your post never made it to us
or the rejection never made it to you. In such cases you should e-mail us
at the address listed above. On rare occasions a post that is borderline
may require discussion among the moderators, which may take a few days to
run to completion.
To help you determine which newsgroup your post would be most appropriate
in and what is acceptable to post, excerpts from the original charters are
included below, followed by a list of things that will be rejected from all
four groups:
MISC.BUSINESS.MODERATED
-----------------------
"The newsgroup misc.business.moderated [is] a moderated forum for
discussion and debate involving all aspects of business not presently being
served by other business newsgroups. It [is] a newsgroup where professors,
managers, entrepreneurs, students and anyone interested in business can
establish contacts, share, learn and exchange practical and theoretical
business thoughts from the world over."
MISC.BUSINESS.CONSULTING
------------------------
"Misc.business.consulting is a forum for discussions concerning the
business issues of consulting. More specifically, this refers to matters
such as tax rulings, clarification of accounting treatments, techniques for
client management, discussions of ethics, advice for beginning consultants,
contract provisions, etc. This should not be taken to totally exclude
technical issues from being raised, when they are framed in the context of
the business of consulting."
MISC.BUSINESS.MARKETING.MODERATED
---------------------------------
"The newsgroup misc.business.marketing.moderated [is] a moderated forum for
discussion and debate involving all aspects of marketing. It [is] a
newsgroup where professors, managers, entrepreneurs, students and anyone
interested in marketing can establish contacts, share, learn and exchange
practical and theoretical marketing thoughts from the world over."
MISC.ENTREPRENEURS.MODERATED
----------------------------
"The newsgroup is for the purposes of moderated discussion of
entrepreneurial and small-business topics, like: starting a business,
finding capital, running operations, controlling costs, obtaining
appropriate products and services, handling employees, filing patents,
handling tax laws, obtaining credit-card and check processing, etc."
MESSAGE CATEGORIES SUBJECT TO REJECTION
---------------------------------------
The following message categories are subject to rejection (or warnings,
where noted) in all four newsgroups. Except where noted, an attempt will be
made to e-mail the original poster (OP) when their post has been rejected.
SPAM
Posts that are obvious spam are rejected without informing the poster. Spam
is considered to include advertising and promotional messages and messages
sent in bulk to multiple destinations (whether the content is topical or
not).
ADVERTISING
The rare posts that appear to us to be sincerely misdirected ads or "job
wanted" posts will be rejected with a response. Likewise, responses to
posts seeking product or service recommendations that appear to be attempts
to sell the OP products or services will be rejected. If you are trying to
sell something to the OP, you should contact them directly if they have
indicated such sales pitches are welcome.
PERSONAL ATTACKS
Excessively personal attacks (ad hominem) will be rejected. It is quite
acceptable to post disagreements to a poster's ideas or advice, but it is
not acceptable to attack the poster personally.
SURVEYS
Requests for readers to fill out a survey (whether by e-mail or on a web
site) may be rejected because such requests will yield a statistically
invalid population of responses - yielding dangerously misleading results
for the poster and a waste of time for respondents. Other times these
surveys are thinly disguised mechanisms for promoting some product or
service.
MIME/HTML
If an on topic posting arrives in MIME or HTML, we will try to clean it up
to plain text if it appears to be the first posting by a poster. A warning
notice is issued to the poster. We reserve the right to reject subsequent
MIME/HTML postings by such persons. Usenet is traditionally plain-text and
the software used by many readers does not support proper rendition of
MIME/HTML.
NEWS, ARTICLES AND ANNOUNCEMENTS
Business news, articles, and announcements are rejected on the grounds that
these are discussion groups, and such things are more appropriate in other
forums. Such things tend to be self-promotional in any case and generally
aren't intended to solicit genuine dialogue.
CROSSPOSTING
Inappropriate cross-posting to other newsgroups may either be rejected or
the list of newsgroups may be trimmed before approval. If trimmed and
approved, the list of newsgroups where the post is considered off topic
will be removed and the poster is warned that their posting will only
appear in the unelided newsgroups.
EXCESSIVE QUOTING AND TOP POSTING
Replies that are top posted, or contain an excessive amount of quoted
material, will not be rejected for those reasons but a warning may be sent
to the poster. We reserve the right to trim or even delete any quoted
material we may deem excessive. An explanation of why we dislike excessive
quoting and top posting is on Google's web site, among others:
http://www.google.com/googlegroups/posting_style.html#summar ize
http://web.presby.edu/~nnqadmin/nnq/nquote.html
OFF TOPIC
If the posting is, in our judgment, off-topic for the newsgroup then we may
reject it. On occasion we do allow follow-up posts to threads to drift off
topic, but are less likely to allow a new thread to be started that begins
off topic.
OTHER
Since it is not possible for us to anticipate and itemize all possible
reasons for rejection, we must reserve the right to reject for reasons not
previously listed. We will however strive to allow as much dialogue as
humanly possible since we realize that posters and readers would abandon
any newsgroup that is moderated in an ad hoc or unjust manner.
Thank you for reading this policy document.
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| | Topic: [MOD] How to get good advice from m.b.m.m. v.1.01 |
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| [MOD] How to get good advice from m.b.m.m. v.1.01 [message #1103] |
Sat, 22 May 2010 13:41 |
stj
Messages: 10
Registered: March 2008 |
Junior Member |
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If you are looking for business advice, do the following:
1) Give as much detail as you can. Take your time. The more information
you give, the better advice regulars here will be able to give you.
Describe your problem as if you were telling it to Sherlock Holmes in his
study. NEVER assume regulars are telepathic! All we know about you and
your problem is what you tell us. If you have a website, give us its URL.
If you have print ads, text of mailings, radio ads, or TV ads, provide
hyperlinks to jpeg, mp3, and mpeg/asf/mov of them. You will NOT bore us
with details. Oh, and remember this newsgroup is an international
newsgroup so don't assume people telepathically know which country you're
in.
2) Don't necessarily expect to receive answers with your first post.
Expect instead to receive questions. Answer these questions promptly and
expect more in return. Once the regulars feel they have an adequate
understanding of your situation and problem, they then might feel they can
offer you some useful advise.
3) Be active. After you post, check this newsgroup at least once a day and
reply to all posts. Take the time to give detailed replies. Don't rush
here either. Give as full of a reply as possible. The more you're active
and the more in-depth your replies, the more regulars will participate in
your thread and the more help you'll receive.
4) Keep it clean. The ones that are probably going to help you the most
will be the professionals that frequent this newsgroup. Unless you'd like
to be put into their kill-files, treat them with respect and don't waste
their time. Many of these professionals regularly check this group from
work during the little breaks in their workday. While more details are
better than too few, adding too much unrelated junk will only confuse the
situation and reduce the usefulness, readability, and value of your post.
Take a moment and streamline your replies. Reduce the header down to just
who is saying which lines. Do NOT simply repost the entire message if
you're only referring to a part of it. Without distorting what they wrote,
trim down what they said to just what you're replying to. Also, do NOT top
post. Top posting forces people to scroll down then back up to your reply.
Think logical progression of thought. Again, it will reduce the time the
professionals need to spend reading your post thus more time they'll have -
during their coffee break -- to reply to your post.
5) Return and let us know what happened. Title your post the same as your
original one and add "[update]" at the end of the subject line. Again, put
as much effort into it as you'd like regulars to give to their replies.
Tell what worked, what didn't, ups, downs, and surprises. Use this as an
opportunity to ask further questions. Bless us with the pearls of wisdom
you learned along the way. Also, remember this is a nice way to thank
those that helped you. Some regulars sometimes feel used and cheap when
those they help never return to let them know what happened. They also
remember those that do and next time you have another problem, they'll be
that much more willing to devote time and effort to help you when you come
around again.
Lastly, remember that the advice you're getting here is worth exactly what
you paid for it. While professionals do frequent this newsgroup, they do
so at their leisure and their advice is informal. If you want better
advice, hire a professional.
Scott Jensen, co-moderator
misc.business.marketing.moderated
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| | Topic: MOD: Business Newsgroup Policies |
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| MOD: Business Newsgroup Policies [message #1102] |
Sat, 22 May 2010 13:41 |
Jim Logajan
Messages: 17
Registered: March 2008 |
Junior Member |
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|
INTRODUCTION
------------
The newsgroups misc.business.marketing.moderated, misc.business.moderated,
misc.business.consulting, and misc.entrepreneurs.moderated are moderated
discussion groups. This periodic post summarizes the current posting
policies all posters are expected to follow for these four newsgroups.
Please read this policy document before posting.
James Hill, Scott Jensen, Jim Logajan, and Nikolai Chuvakhin are the current
business newsgroups volunteer moderators. You may contact us collectively
by sending e-mail to: business-moderators at Lugoj com (substitute "@" for
" at " and insert a "." between Lugoj and com).
If your post does not appear within 48 hours and you haven't seen a
rejection e-mail from us, then it is possible your post never made it to us
or the rejection never made it to you. In such cases you should e-mail us
at the address listed above. On rare occasions a post that is borderline
may require discussion among the moderators, which may take a few days to
run to completion.
To help you determine which newsgroup your post would be most appropriate
in and what is acceptable to post, excerpts from the original charters are
included below, followed by a list of things that will be rejected from all
four groups:
MISC.BUSINESS.MODERATED
-----------------------
"The newsgroup misc.business.moderated [is] a moderated forum for
discussion and debate involving all aspects of business not presently being
served by other business newsgroups. It [is] a newsgroup where professors,
managers, entrepreneurs, students and anyone interested in business can
establish contacts, share, learn and exchange practical and theoretical
business thoughts from the world over."
MISC.BUSINESS.CONSULTING
------------------------
"Misc.business.consulting is a forum for discussions concerning the
business issues of consulting. More specifically, this refers to matters
such as tax rulings, clarification of accounting treatments, techniques for
client management, discussions of ethics, advice for beginning consultants,
contract provisions, etc. This should not be taken to totally exclude
technical issues from being raised, when they are framed in the context of
the business of consulting."
MISC.BUSINESS.MARKETING.MODERATED
---------------------------------
"The newsgroup misc.business.marketing.moderated [is] a moderated forum for
discussion and debate involving all aspects of marketing. It [is] a
newsgroup where professors, managers, entrepreneurs, students and anyone
interested in marketing can establish contacts, share, learn and exchange
practical and theoretical marketing thoughts from the world over."
MISC.ENTREPRENEURS.MODERATED
----------------------------
"The newsgroup is for the purposes of moderated discussion of
entrepreneurial and small-business topics, like: starting a business,
finding capital, running operations, controlling costs, obtaining
appropriate products and services, handling employees, filing patents,
handling tax laws, obtaining credit-card and check processing, etc."
MESSAGE CATEGORIES SUBJECT TO REJECTION
---------------------------------------
The following message categories are subject to rejection (or warnings,
where noted) in all four newsgroups. Except where noted, an attempt will be
made to e-mail the original poster (OP) when their post has been rejected.
SPAM
Posts that are obvious spam are rejected without informing the poster. Spam
is considered to include advertising and promotional messages and messages
sent in bulk to multiple destinations (whether the content is topical or
not).
ADVERTISING
The rare posts that appear to us to be sincerely misdirected ads or "job
wanted" posts will be rejected with a response. Likewise, responses to
posts seeking product or service recommendations that appear to be attempts
to sell the OP products or services will be rejected. If you are trying to
sell something to the OP, you should contact them directly if they have
indicated such sales pitches are welcome.
PERSONAL ATTACKS
Excessively personal attacks (ad hominem) will be rejected. It is quite
acceptable to post disagreements to a poster's ideas or advice, but it is
not acceptable to attack the poster personally.
SURVEYS
Requests for readers to fill out a survey (whether by e-mail or on a web
site) may be rejected because such requests will yield a statistically
invalid population of responses - yielding dangerously misleading results
for the poster and a waste of time for respondents. Other times these
surveys are thinly disguised mechanisms for promoting some product or
service.
MIME/HTML
If an on topic posting arrives in MIME or HTML, we will try to clean it up
to plain text if it appears to be the first posting by a poster. A warning
notice is issued to the poster. We reserve the right to reject subsequent
MIME/HTML postings by such persons. Usenet is traditionally plain-text and
the software used by many readers does not support proper rendition of
MIME/HTML.
NEWS, ARTICLES AND ANNOUNCEMENTS
Business news, articles, and announcements are rejected on the grounds that
these are discussion groups, and such things are more appropriate in other
forums. Such things tend to be self-promotional in any case and generally
aren't intended to solicit genuine dialogue.
CROSSPOSTING
Inappropriate cross-posting to other newsgroups may either be rejected or
the list of newsgroups may be trimmed before approval. If trimmed and
approved, the list of newsgroups where the post is considered off topic
will be removed and the poster is warned that their posting will only
appear in the unelided newsgroups.
EXCESSIVE QUOTING AND TOP POSTING
Replies that are top posted, or contain an excessive amount of quoted
material, will not be rejected for those reasons but a warning may be sent
to the poster. We reserve the right to trim or even delete any quoted
material we may deem excessive. An explanation of why we dislike excessive
quoting and top posting is on Google's web site, among others:
http://www.google.com/googlegroups/posting_style.html#summar ize
http://web.presby.edu/~nnqadmin/nnq/nquote.html
OFF TOPIC
If the posting is, in our judgment, off-topic for the newsgroup then we may
reject it. On occasion we do allow follow-up posts to threads to drift off
topic, but are less likely to allow a new thread to be started that begins
off topic.
OTHER
Since it is not possible for us to anticipate and itemize all possible
reasons for rejection, we must reserve the right to reject for reasons not
previously listed. We will however strive to allow as much dialogue as
humanly possible since we realize that posters and readers would abandon
any newsgroup that is moderated in an ad hoc or unjust manner.
Thank you for reading this policy document.
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| | Topic: [MOD] How to get good advice from m.b.m.m. v.1.01 |
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| [MOD] How to get good advice from m.b.m.m. v.1.01 [message #1099] |
Sat, 24 April 2010 13:41 |
stj
Messages: 10
Registered: March 2008 |
Junior Member |
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If you are looking for business advice, do the following:
1) Give as much detail as you can. Take your time. The more information
you give, the better advice regulars here will be able to give you.
Describe your problem as if you were telling it to Sherlock Holmes in his
study. NEVER assume regulars are telepathic! All we know about you and
your problem is what you tell us. If you have a website, give us its URL.
If you have print ads, text of mailings, radio ads, or TV ads, provide
hyperlinks to jpeg, mp3, and mpeg/asf/mov of them. You will NOT bore us
with details. Oh, and remember this newsgroup is an international
newsgroup so don't assume people telepathically know which country you're
in.
2) Don't necessarily expect to receive answers with your first post.
Expect instead to receive questions. Answer these questions promptly and
expect more in return. Once the regulars feel they have an adequate
understanding of your situation and problem, they then might feel they can
offer you some useful advise.
3) Be active. After you post, check this newsgroup at least once a day and
reply to all posts. Take the time to give detailed replies. Don't rush
here either. Give as full of a reply as possible. The more you're active
and the more in-depth your replies, the more regulars will participate in
your thread and the more help you'll receive.
4) Keep it clean. The ones that are probably going to help you the most
will be the professionals that frequent this newsgroup. Unless you'd like
to be put into their kill-files, treat them with respect and don't waste
their time. Many of these professionals regularly check this group from
work during the little breaks in their workday. While more details are
better than too few, adding too much unrelated junk will only confuse the
situation and reduce the usefulness, readability, and value of your post.
Take a moment and streamline your replies. Reduce the header down to just
who is saying which lines. Do NOT simply repost the entire message if
you're only referring to a part of it. Without distorting what they wrote,
trim down what they said to just what you're replying to. Also, do NOT top
post. Top posting forces people to scroll down then back up to your reply.
Think logical progression of thought. Again, it will reduce the time the
professionals need to spend reading your post thus more time they'll have -
during their coffee break -- to reply to your post.
5) Return and let us know what happened. Title your post the same as your
original one and add "[update]" at the end of the subject line. Again, put
as much effort into it as you'd like regulars to give to their replies.
Tell what worked, what didn't, ups, downs, and surprises. Use this as an
opportunity to ask further questions. Bless us with the pearls of wisdom
you learned along the way. Also, remember this is a nice way to thank
those that helped you. Some regulars sometimes feel used and cheap when
those they help never return to let them know what happened. They also
remember those that do and next time you have another problem, they'll be
that much more willing to devote time and effort to help you when you come
around again.
Lastly, remember that the advice you're getting here is worth exactly what
you paid for it. While professionals do frequent this newsgroup, they do
so at their leisure and their advice is informal. If you want better
advice, hire a professional.
Scott Jensen, co-moderator
misc.business.marketing.moderated
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| | Topic: MOD: Business Newsgroup Policies |
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| MOD: Business Newsgroup Policies [message #1098] |
Sat, 24 April 2010 13:41 |
Jim Logajan
Messages: 17
Registered: March 2008 |
Junior Member |
|
|
INTRODUCTION
------------
The newsgroups misc.business.marketing.moderated, misc.business.moderated,
misc.business.consulting, and misc.entrepreneurs.moderated are moderated
discussion groups. This periodic post summarizes the current posting
policies all posters are expected to follow for these four newsgroups.
Please read this policy document before posting.
James Hill, Scott Jensen, Jim Logajan, and Nikolai Chuvakhin are the current
business newsgroups volunteer moderators. You may contact us collectively
by sending e-mail to: business-moderators at Lugoj com (substitute "@" for
" at " and insert a "." between Lugoj and com).
If your post does not appear within 48 hours and you haven't seen a
rejection e-mail from us, then it is possible your post never made it to us
or the rejection never made it to you. In such cases you should e-mail us
at the address listed above. On rare occasions a post that is borderline
may require discussion among the moderators, which may take a few days to
run to completion.
To help you determine which newsgroup your post would be most appropriate
in and what is acceptable to post, excerpts from the original charters are
included below, followed by a list of things that will be rejected from all
four groups:
MISC.BUSINESS.MODERATED
-----------------------
"The newsgroup misc.business.moderated [is] a moderated forum for
discussion and debate involving all aspects of business not presently being
served by other business newsgroups. It [is] a newsgroup where professors,
managers, entrepreneurs, students and anyone interested in business can
establish contacts, share, learn and exchange practical and theoretical
business thoughts from the world over."
MISC.BUSINESS.CONSULTING
------------------------
"Misc.business.consulting is a forum for discussions concerning the
business issues of consulting. More specifically, this refers to matters
such as tax rulings, clarification of accounting treatments, techniques for
client management, discussions of ethics, advice for beginning consultants,
contract provisions, etc. This should not be taken to totally exclude
technical issues from being raised, when they are framed in the context of
the business of consulting."
MISC.BUSINESS.MARKETING.MODERATED
---------------------------------
"The newsgroup misc.business.marketing.moderated [is] a moderated forum for
discussion and debate involving all aspects of marketing. It [is] a
newsgroup where professors, managers, entrepreneurs, students and anyone
interested in marketing can establish contacts, share, learn and exchange
practical and theoretical marketing thoughts from the world over."
MISC.ENTREPRENEURS.MODERATED
----------------------------
"The newsgroup is for the purposes of moderated discussion of
entrepreneurial and small-business topics, like: starting a business,
finding capital, running operations, controlling costs, obtaining
appropriate products and services, handling employees, filing patents,
handling tax laws, obtaining credit-card and check processing, etc."
MESSAGE CATEGORIES SUBJECT TO REJECTION
---------------------------------------
The following message categories are subject to rejection (or warnings,
where noted) in all four newsgroups. Except where noted, an attempt will be
made to e-mail the original poster (OP) when their post has been rejected.
SPAM
Posts that are obvious spam are rejected without informing the poster. Spam
is considered to include advertising and promotional messages and messages
sent in bulk to multiple destinations (whether the content is topical or
not).
ADVERTISING
The rare posts that appear to us to be sincerely misdirected ads or "job
wanted" posts will be rejected with a response. Likewise, responses to
posts seeking product or service recommendations that appear to be attempts
to sell the OP products or services will be rejected. If you are trying to
sell something to the OP, you should contact them directly if they have
indicated such sales pitches are welcome.
PERSONAL ATTACKS
Excessively personal attacks (ad hominem) will be rejected. It is quite
acceptable to post disagreements to a poster's ideas or advice, but it is
not acceptable to attack the poster personally.
SURVEYS
Requests for readers to fill out a survey (whether by e-mail or on a web
site) may be rejected because such requests will yield a statistically
invalid population of responses - yielding dangerously misleading results
for the poster and a waste of time for respondents. Other times these
surveys are thinly disguised mechanisms for promoting some product or
service.
MIME/HTML
If an on topic posting arrives in MIME or HTML, we will try to clean it up
to plain text if it appears to be the first posting by a poster. A warning
notice is issued to the poster. We reserve the right to reject subsequent
MIME/HTML postings by such persons. Usenet is traditionally plain-text and
the software used by many readers does not support proper rendition of
MIME/HTML.
NEWS, ARTICLES AND ANNOUNCEMENTS
Business news, articles, and announcements are rejected on the grounds that
these are discussion groups, and such things are more appropriate in other
forums. Such things tend to be self-promotional in any case and generally
aren't intended to solicit genuine dialogue.
CROSSPOSTING
Inappropriate cross-posting to other newsgroups may either be rejected or
the list of newsgroups may be trimmed before approval. If trimmed and
approved, the list of newsgroups where the post is considered off topic
will be removed and the poster is warned that their posting will only
appear in the unelided newsgroups.
EXCESSIVE QUOTING AND TOP POSTING
Replies that are top posted, or contain an excessive amount of quoted
material, will not be rejected for those reasons but a warning may be sent
to the poster. We reserve the right to trim or even delete any quoted
material we may deem excessive. An explanation of why we dislike excessive
quoting and top posting is on Google's web site, among others:
http://www.google.com/googlegroups/posting_style.html#summar ize
http://web.presby.edu/~nnqadmin/nnq/nquote.html
OFF TOPIC
If the posting is, in our judgment, off-topic for the newsgroup then we may
reject it. On occasion we do allow follow-up posts to threads to drift off
topic, but are less likely to allow a new thread to be started that begins
off topic.
OTHER
Since it is not possible for us to anticipate and itemize all possible
reasons for rejection, we must reserve the right to reject for reasons not
previously listed. We will however strive to allow as much dialogue as
humanly possible since we realize that posters and readers would abandon
any newsgroup that is moderated in an ad hoc or unjust manner.
Thank you for reading this policy document.
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| | Topic: please help me conduct forum research |
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| please help me conduct forum research [message #19] |
Tue, 09 December 2008 01:10 |
nathaniel wilson
Messages: 1
Registered: December 2008 |
Junior Member |
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hi everyone. does anyone know of a software program that can be used to
search and do research on forums to find specific questions and comments to
be used to form the content and interview questions inside of an infoproduct
please? this software would save a lot time searching forum by forum for
specific topics and concerns of the members of the forums. and if you are
very good with forum and internet research in relation to finding out the
wants/needs/desires of huge markets online please contact me.
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| | Topic: Re: Whatcha gonna change next year? |
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| Re: Whatcha gonna change next year? [message #2] |
Thu, 20 March 2008 22:41 |
marketing
Messages: 1
Registered: March 2008 |
Junior Member |
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"em" <i@dun.no> wrote in message news:13nb9r8jad7306@news.supernews.com...
>
> Hi There,
>
> I'm wondering if anybody has any plans to do something different with
> their
> business next year, and if so, what?
>
> Personally, I've been consulting for quite some time. I am going to try to
> do a little blogging on my website and maybe try to do a little PR, such
> as
> publishing a case study or some such thing with a couple of online rags.
> I've also created an rss feed for the project/case study area of my
> website
> and plan to work harder at keeping that area of my site up-to-date.
>
> And... I want to be more consistent in my advertising. I've been living
> off
> word of mouth and repeat business for quite some time and the prospect of
> fresh blood is kind of exciting.
>
> Also, I'm trying to work up a "system" that people can follow for
> accomplishing some specific goals with their company and I hope to sell it
> as an online program of some sort. (Not a computer program, but a program
> people follow like, "this is step one, this is step two," etc.) If I can
> find ten or twenty people who are trying to accomplish the same thing with
> their company, like sales automation or whatever, maybe I can form a small
> community of members with private forums and whatnot, and work with a
> group
> of companies rather than one at a time. The problem is I'm not coming up
> with anything specific that I think will work, but... its an interesting
> concept and I'll continue to give it some more thought.
>
> Just a few thoughts, I always try to come up with new ideas at the end of
> each year.
>
> Mike
>
Mike, one thing we have already done for this year and next is develop
a mobile version of our web site. The mobile world is a world with much
simpler designs and less functionality (kind of like turning back the clock
to the mid 90's version of the web). However, mobile web access is probably
the next big wave of electronic marketing. For now you may want to at least
register your existing domain name with a .mobi extension.
Our mobile web site is located at: http://www.bpi-consortium.mobi/
Rod
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| | Forum: Entrepreneurs |
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| Topic: MOD: Business Newsgroup Policies |
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| MOD: Business Newsgroup Policies [message #1119] |
Sat, 14 August 2010 17:48 |
Jim Logajan
Messages: 17
Registered: March 2008 |
Junior Member |
|
|
INTRODUCTION
------------
The newsgroups misc.business.marketing.moderated, misc.business.moderated,
misc.business.consulting, and misc.entrepreneurs.moderated are moderated
discussion groups. This periodic post summarizes the current posting
policies all posters are expected to follow for these four newsgroups.
Please read this policy document before posting.
James Hill, Scott Jensen, Jim Logajan, and Nikolai Chuvakhin are the current
business newsgroups volunteer moderators. You may contact us collectively
by sending e-mail to: business-moderators at Lugoj com (substitute "@" for
" at " and insert a "." between Lugoj and com).
If your post does not appear within 48 hours and you haven't seen a
rejection e-mail from us, then it is possible your post never made it to us
or the rejection never made it to you. In such cases you should e-mail us
at the address listed above. On rare occasions a post that is borderline
may require discussion among the moderators, which may take a few days to
run to completion.
To help you determine which newsgroup your post would be most appropriate
in and what is acceptable to post, excerpts from the original charters are
included below, followed by a list of things that will be rejected from all
four groups:
MISC.BUSINESS.MODERATED
-----------------------
"The newsgroup misc.business.moderated [is] a moderated forum for
discussion and debate involving all aspects of business not presently being
served by other business newsgroups. It [is] a newsgroup where professors,
managers, entrepreneurs, students and anyone interested in business can
establish contacts, share, learn and exchange practical and theoretical
business thoughts from the world over."
MISC.BUSINESS.CONSULTING
------------------------
"Misc.business.consulting is a forum for discussions concerning the
business issues of consulting. More specifically, this refers to matters
such as tax rulings, clarification of accounting treatments, techniques for
client management, discussions of ethics, advice for beginning consultants,
contract provisions, etc. This should not be taken to totally exclude
technical issues from being raised, when they are framed in the context of
the business of consulting."
MISC.BUSINESS.MARKETING.MODERATED
---------------------------------
"The newsgroup misc.business.marketing.moderated [is] a moderated forum for
discussion and debate involving all aspects of marketing. It [is] a
newsgroup where professors, managers, entrepreneurs, students and anyone
interested in marketing can establish contacts, share, learn and exchange
practical and theoretical marketing thoughts from the world over."
MISC.ENTREPRENEURS.MODERATED
----------------------------
"The newsgroup is for the purposes of moderated discussion of
entrepreneurial and small-business topics, like: starting a business,
finding capital, running operations, controlling costs, obtaining
appropriate products and services, handling employees, filing patents,
handling tax laws, obtaining credit-card and check processing, etc."
MESSAGE CATEGORIES SUBJECT TO REJECTION
---------------------------------------
The following message categories are subject to rejection (or warnings,
where noted) in all four newsgroups. Except where noted, an attempt will be
made to e-mail the original poster (OP) when their post has been rejected.
SPAM
Posts that are obvious spam are rejected without informing the poster. Spam
is considered to include advertising and promotional messages and messages
sent in bulk to multiple destinations (whether the content is topical or
not).
ADVERTISING
The rare posts that appear to us to be sincerely misdirected ads or "job
wanted" posts will be rejected with a response. Likewise, responses to
posts seeking product or service recommendations that appear to be attempts
to sell the OP products or services will be rejected. If you are trying to
sell something to the OP, you should contact them directly if they have
indicated such sales pitches are welcome.
PERSONAL ATTACKS
Excessively personal attacks (ad hominem) will be rejected. It is quite
acceptable to post disagreements to a poster's ideas or advice, but it is
not acceptable to attack the poster personally.
SURVEYS
Requests for readers to fill out a survey (whether by e-mail or on a web
site) may be rejected because such requests will yield a statistically
invalid population of responses - yielding dangerously misleading results
for the poster and a waste of time for respondents. Other times these
surveys are thinly disguised mechanisms for promoting some product or
service.
MIME/HTML
If an on topic posting arrives in MIME or HTML, we will try to clean it up
to plain text if it appears to be the first posting by a poster. A warning
notice is issued to the poster. We reserve the right to reject subsequent
MIME/HTML postings by such persons. Usenet is traditionally plain-text and
the software used by many readers does not support proper rendition of
MIME/HTML.
NEWS, ARTICLES AND ANNOUNCEMENTS
Business news, articles, and announcements are rejected on the grounds that
these are discussion groups, and such things are more appropriate in other
forums. Such things tend to be self-promotional in any case and generally
aren't intended to solicit genuine dialogue.
CROSSPOSTING
Inappropriate cross-posting to other newsgroups may either be rejected or
the list of newsgroups may be trimmed before approval. If trimmed and
approved, the list of newsgroups where the post is considered off topic
will be removed and the poster is warned that their posting will only
appear in the unelided newsgroups.
EXCESSIVE QUOTING AND TOP POSTING
Replies that are top posted, or contain an excessive amount of quoted
material, will not be rejected for those reasons but a warning may be sent
to the poster. We reserve the right to trim or even delete any quoted
material we may deem excessive. An explanation of why we dislike excessive
quoting and top posting is on Google's web site, among others:
http://www.google.com/googlegroups/posting_style.html#summar ize
http://web.presby.edu/~nnqadmin/nnq/nquote.html
OFF TOPIC
If the posting is, in our judgment, off-topic for the newsgroup then we may
reject it. On occasion we do allow follow-up posts to threads to drift off
topic, but are less likely to allow a new thread to be started that begins
off topic.
OTHER
Since it is not possible for us to anticipate and itemize all possible
reasons for rejection, we must reserve the right to reject for reasons not
previously listed. We will however strive to allow as much dialogue as
humanly possible since we realize that posters and readers would abandon
any newsgroup that is moderated in an ad hoc or unjust manner.
Thank you for reading this policy document.
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| | Topic: [MOD] How to get good advice from m.e.m. v.1.01 |
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| [MOD] How to get good advice from m.e.m. v.1.01 [message #1118] |
Sat, 14 August 2010 17:48 |
stj
Messages: 10
Registered: March 2008 |
Junior Member |
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|
If you are looking for business advice, do the following:
1) Give as much detail as you can. Take your time. The more information
you give, the better advice regulars here will be able to give you.
Describe your problem as if you were telling it to Sherlock Holmes in his
study. NEVER assume regulars are telepathic! All we know about you and
your problem is what you tell us. If you have a website, give us its URL.
If you have print ads, text of mailings, radio ads, or TV ads, provide
hyperlinks to jpeg, mp3, and mpeg/asf/mov of them. You will NOT bore us
with details. Oh, and remember this newsgroup is an international
newsgroup so don't assume people telepathically know which country you're
in.
2) Don't necessarily expect to receive answers with your first post.
Expect instead to receive questions. Answer these questions promptly and
expect more in return. Once the regulars feel they have an adequate
understanding of your situation and problem, they then might feel they can
offer you some useful advise.
3) Be active. After you post, check this newsgroup at least once a day and
reply to all posts. Take the time to give detailed replies. Don't rush
here either. Give as full of a reply as possible. The more you're active
and the more in-depth your replies, the more regulars will participate in
your thread and the more help you'll receive.
4) Keep it clean. The ones that are probably going to help you the most
will be the professionals that frequent this newsgroup. Unless you'd like
to be put into their kill-files, treat them with respect and don't waste
their time. Many of these professionals regularly check this group from
work during the little breaks in their workday. While more details are
better than too few, adding too much unrelated junk will only confuse the
situation and reduce the usefulness, readability, and value of your post.
Take a moment and streamline your replies. Reduce the header down to just
who is saying which lines. Do NOT simply repost the entire message if
you're only referring to a part of it. Without distorting what they wrote,
trim down what they said to just what you're replying to. Also, do NOT top
post. Top posting forces people to scroll down then back up to your reply.
Think logical progression of thought. Again, it will reduce the time the
professionals need to spend reading your post thus more time they'll have -
during their coffee break -- to reply to your post.
5) Return and let us know what happened. Title your post the same as your
original one and add "[update]" at the end of the subject line. Again, put
as much effort into it as you'd like regulars to give to their replies.
Tell what worked, what didn't, ups, downs, and surprises. Use this as an
opportunity to ask further questions. Bless us with the pearls of wisdom
you learned along the way. Also, remember this is a nice way to thank
those that helped you. Some regulars sometimes feel used and cheap when
those they help never return to let them know what happened. They also
remember those that do and next time you have another problem, they'll be
that much more willing to devote time and effort to help you when you come
around again.
Lastly, remember that the advice you're getting here is worth exactly what
you paid for it. While professionals do frequent this newsgroup, they do
so at their leisure and their advice is informal. If you want better
advice, hire a professional.
Scott Jensen, co-moderator
misc.entrepreneurs.moderated
|
|
| | Topic: MOD: Business Newsgroup Policies |
|---|
| MOD: Business Newsgroup Policies [message #1115] |
Sat, 17 July 2010 17:48 |
Jim Logajan
Messages: 17
Registered: March 2008 |
Junior Member |
|
|
INTRODUCTION
------------
The newsgroups misc.business.marketing.moderated, misc.business.moderated,
misc.business.consulting, and misc.entrepreneurs.moderated are moderated
discussion groups. This periodic post summarizes the current posting
policies all posters are expected to follow for these four newsgroups.
Please read this policy document before posting.
James Hill, Scott Jensen, Jim Logajan, and Nikolai Chuvakhin are the current
business newsgroups volunteer moderators. You may contact us collectively
by sending e-mail to: business-moderators at Lugoj com (substitute "@" for
" at " and insert a "." between Lugoj and com).
If your post does not appear within 48 hours and you haven't seen a
rejection e-mail from us, then it is possible your post never made it to us
or the rejection never made it to you. In such cases you should e-mail us
at the address listed above. On rare occasions a post that is borderline
may require discussion among the moderators, which may take a few days to
run to completion.
To help you determine which newsgroup your post would be most appropriate
in and what is acceptable to post, excerpts from the original charters are
included below, followed by a list of things that will be rejected from all
four groups:
MISC.BUSINESS.MODERATED
-----------------------
"The newsgroup misc.business.moderated [is] a moderated forum for
discussion and debate involving all aspects of business not presently being
served by other business newsgroups. It [is] a newsgroup where professors,
managers, entrepreneurs, students and anyone interested in business can
establish contacts, share, learn and exchange practical and theoretical
business thoughts from the world over."
MISC.BUSINESS.CONSULTING
------------------------
"Misc.business.consulting is a forum for discussions concerning the
business issues of consulting. More specifically, this refers to matters
such as tax rulings, clarification of accounting treatments, techniques for
client management, discussions of ethics, advice for beginning consultants,
contract provisions, etc. This should not be taken to totally exclude
technical issues from being raised, when they are framed in the context of
the business of consulting."
MISC.BUSINESS.MARKETING.MODERATED
---------------------------------
"The newsgroup misc.business.marketing.moderated [is] a moderated forum for
discussion and debate involving all aspects of marketing. It [is] a
newsgroup where professors, managers, entrepreneurs, students and anyone
interested in marketing can establish contacts, share, learn and exchange
practical and theoretical marketing thoughts from the world over."
MISC.ENTREPRENEURS.MODERATED
----------------------------
"The newsgroup is for the purposes of moderated discussion of
entrepreneurial and small-business topics, like: starting a business,
finding capital, running operations, controlling costs, obtaining
appropriate products and services, handling employees, filing patents,
handling tax laws, obtaining credit-card and check processing, etc."
MESSAGE CATEGORIES SUBJECT TO REJECTION
---------------------------------------
The following message categories are subject to rejection (or warnings,
where noted) in all four newsgroups. Except where noted, an attempt will be
made to e-mail the original poster (OP) when their post has been rejected.
SPAM
Posts that are obvious spam are rejected without informing the poster. Spam
is considered to include advertising and promotional messages and messages
sent in bulk to multiple destinations (whether the content is topical or
not).
ADVERTISING
The rare posts that appear to us to be sincerely misdirected ads or "job
wanted" posts will be rejected with a response. Likewise, responses to
posts seeking product or service recommendations that appear to be attempts
to sell the OP products or services will be rejected. If you are trying to
sell something to the OP, you should contact them directly if they have
indicated such sales pitches are welcome.
PERSONAL ATTACKS
Excessively personal attacks (ad hominem) will be rejected. It is quite
acceptable to post disagreements to a poster's ideas or advice, but it is
not acceptable to attack the poster personally.
SURVEYS
Requests for readers to fill out a survey (whether by e-mail or on a web
site) may be rejected because such requests will yield a statistically
invalid population of responses - yielding dangerously misleading results
for the poster and a waste of time for respondents. Other times these
surveys are thinly disguised mechanisms for promoting some product or
service.
MIME/HTML
If an on topic posting arrives in MIME or HTML, we will try to clean it up
to plain text if it appears to be the first posting by a poster. A warning
notice is issued to the poster. We reserve the right to reject subsequent
MIME/HTML postings by such persons. Usenet is traditionally plain-text and
the software used by many readers does not support proper rendition of
MIME/HTML.
NEWS, ARTICLES AND ANNOUNCEMENTS
Business news, articles, and announcements are rejected on the grounds that
these are discussion groups, and such things are more appropriate in other
forums. Such things tend to be self-promotional in any case and generally
aren't intended to solicit genuine dialogue.
CROSSPOSTING
Inappropriate cross-posting to other newsgroups may either be rejected or
the list of newsgroups may be trimmed before approval. If trimmed and
approved, the list of newsgroups where the post is considered off topic
will be removed and the poster is warned that their posting will only
appear in the unelided newsgroups.
EXCESSIVE QUOTING AND TOP POSTING
Replies that are top posted, or contain an excessive amount of quoted
material, will not be rejected for those reasons but a warning may be sent
to the poster. We reserve the right to trim or even delete any quoted
material we may deem excessive. An explanation of why we dislike excessive
quoting and top posting is on Google's web site, among others:
http://www.google.com/googlegroups/posting_style.html#summar ize
http://web.presby.edu/~nnqadmin/nnq/nquote.html
OFF TOPIC
If the posting is, in our judgment, off-topic for the newsgroup then we may
reject it. On occasion we do allow follow-up posts to threads to drift off
topic, but are less likely to allow a new thread to be started that begins
off topic.
OTHER
Since it is not possible for us to anticipate and itemize all possible
reasons for rejection, we must reserve the right to reject for reasons not
previously listed. We will however strive to allow as much dialogue as
humanly possible since we realize that posters and readers would abandon
any newsgroup that is moderated in an ad hoc or unjust manner.
Thank you for reading this policy document.
|
|
| | Topic: [MOD] How to get good advice from m.e.m. v.1.01 |
|---|
| [MOD] How to get good advice from m.e.m. v.1.01 [message #1114] |
Sat, 17 July 2010 17:48 |
stj
Messages: 10
Registered: March 2008 |
Junior Member |
|
|
If you are looking for business advice, do the following:
1) Give as much detail as you can. Take your time. The more information
you give, the better advice regulars here will be able to give you.
Describe your problem as if you were telling it to Sherlock Holmes in his
study. NEVER assume regulars are telepathic! All we know about you and
your problem is what you tell us. If you have a website, give us its URL.
If you have print ads, text of mailings, radio ads, or TV ads, provide
hyperlinks to jpeg, mp3, and mpeg/asf/mov of them. You will NOT bore us
with details. Oh, and remember this newsgroup is an international
newsgroup so don't assume people telepathically know which country you're
in.
2) Don't necessarily expect to receive answers with your first post.
Expect instead to receive questions. Answer these questions promptly and
expect more in return. Once the regulars feel they have an adequate
understanding of your situation and problem, they then might feel they can
offer you some useful advise.
3) Be active. After you post, check this newsgroup at least once a day and
reply to all posts. Take the time to give detailed replies. Don't rush
here either. Give as full of a reply as possible. The more you're active
and the more in-depth your replies, the more regulars will participate in
your thread and the more help you'll receive.
4) Keep it clean. The ones that are probably going to help you the most
will be the professionals that frequent this newsgroup. Unless you'd like
to be put into their kill-files, treat them with respect and don't waste
their time. Many of these professionals regularly check this group from
work during the little breaks in their workday. While more details are
better than too few, adding too much unrelated junk will only confuse the
situation and reduce the usefulness, readability, and value of your post.
Take a moment and streamline your replies. Reduce the header down to just
who is saying which lines. Do NOT simply repost the entire message if
you're only referring to a part of it. Without distorting what they wrote,
trim down what they said to just what you're replying to. Also, do NOT top
post. Top posting forces people to scroll down then back up to your reply.
Think logical progression of thought. Again, it will reduce the time the
professionals need to spend reading your post thus more time they'll have -
during their coffee break -- to reply to your post.
5) Return and let us know what happened. Title your post the same as your
original one and add "[update]" at the end of the subject line. Again, put
as much effort into it as you'd like regulars to give to their replies.
Tell what worked, what didn't, ups, downs, and surprises. Use this as an
opportunity to ask further questions. Bless us with the pearls of wisdom
you learned along the way. Also, remember this is a nice way to thank
those that helped you. Some regulars sometimes feel used and cheap when
those they help never return to let them know what happened. They also
remember those that do and next time you have another problem, they'll be
that much more willing to devote time and effort to help you when you come
around again.
Lastly, remember that the advice you're getting here is worth exactly what
you paid for it. While professionals do frequent this newsgroup, they do
so at their leisure and their advice is informal. If you want better
advice, hire a professional.
Scott Jensen, co-moderator
misc.entrepreneurs.moderated
|
|
| | Topic: MOD: Business Newsgroup Policies |
|---|
| MOD: Business Newsgroup Policies [message #1107] |
Sat, 19 June 2010 17:48 |
Jim Logajan
Messages: 17
Registered: March 2008 |
Junior Member |
|
|
INTRODUCTION
------------
The newsgroups misc.business.marketing.moderated, misc.business.moderated,
misc.business.consulting, and misc.entrepreneurs.moderated are moderated
discussion groups. This periodic post summarizes the current posting
policies all posters are expected to follow for these four newsgroups.
Please read this policy document before posting.
James Hill, Scott Jensen, Jim Logajan, and Nikolai Chuvakhin are the current
business newsgroups volunteer moderators. You may contact us collectively
by sending e-mail to: business-moderators at Lugoj com (substitute "@" for
" at " and insert a "." between Lugoj and com).
If your post does not appear within 48 hours and you haven't seen a
rejection e-mail from us, then it is possible your post never made it to us
or the rejection never made it to you. In such cases you should e-mail us
at the address listed above. On rare occasions a post that is borderline
may require discussion among the moderators, which may take a few days to
run to completion.
To help you determine which newsgroup your post would be most appropriate
in and what is acceptable to post, excerpts from the original charters are
included below, followed by a list of things that will be rejected from all
four groups:
MISC.BUSINESS.MODERATED
-----------------------
"The newsgroup misc.business.moderated [is] a moderated forum for
discussion and debate involving all aspects of business not presently being
served by other business newsgroups. It [is] a newsgroup where professors,
managers, entrepreneurs, students and anyone interested in business can
establish contacts, share, learn and exchange practical and theoretical
business thoughts from the world over."
MISC.BUSINESS.CONSULTING
------------------------
"Misc.business.consulting is a forum for discussions concerning the
business issues of consulting. More specifically, this refers to matters
such as tax rulings, clarification of accounting treatments, techniques for
client management, discussions of ethics, advice for beginning consultants,
contract provisions, etc. This should not be taken to totally exclude
technical issues from being raised, when they are framed in the context of
the business of consulting."
MISC.BUSINESS.MARKETING.MODERATED
---------------------------------
"The newsgroup misc.business.marketing.moderated [is] a moderated forum for
discussion and debate involving all aspects of marketing. It [is] a
newsgroup where professors, managers, entrepreneurs, students and anyone
interested in marketing can establish contacts, share, learn and exchange
practical and theoretical marketing thoughts from the world over."
MISC.ENTREPRENEURS.MODERATED
----------------------------
"The newsgroup is for the purposes of moderated discussion of
entrepreneurial and small-business topics, like: starting a business,
finding capital, running operations, controlling costs, obtaining
appropriate products and services, handling employees, filing patents,
handling tax laws, obtaining credit-card and check processing, etc."
MESSAGE CATEGORIES SUBJECT TO REJECTION
---------------------------------------
The following message categories are subject to rejection (or warnings,
where noted) in all four newsgroups. Except where noted, an attempt will be
made to e-mail the original poster (OP) when their post has been rejected.
SPAM
Posts that are obvious spam are rejected without informing the poster. Spam
is considered to include advertising and promotional messages and messages
sent in bulk to multiple destinations (whether the content is topical or
not).
ADVERTISING
The rare posts that appear to us to be sincerely misdirected ads or "job
wanted" posts will be rejected with a response. Likewise, responses to
posts seeking product or service recommendations that appear to be attempts
to sell the OP products or services will be rejected. If you are trying to
sell something to the OP, you should contact them directly if they have
indicated such sales pitches are welcome.
PERSONAL ATTACKS
Excessively personal attacks (ad hominem) will be rejected. It is quite
acceptable to post disagreements to a poster's ideas or advice, but it is
not acceptable to attack the poster personally.
SURVEYS
Requests for readers to fill out a survey (whether by e-mail or on a web
site) may be rejected because such requests will yield a statistically
invalid population of responses - yielding dangerously misleading results
for the poster and a waste of time for respondents. Other times these
surveys are thinly disguised mechanisms for promoting some product or
service.
MIME/HTML
If an on topic posting arrives in MIME or HTML, we will try to clean it up
to plain text if it appears to be the first posting by a poster. A warning
notice is issued to the poster. We reserve the right to reject subsequent
MIME/HTML postings by such persons. Usenet is traditionally plain-text and
the software used by many readers does not support proper rendition of
MIME/HTML.
NEWS, ARTICLES AND ANNOUNCEMENTS
Business news, articles, and announcements are rejected on the grounds that
these are discussion groups, and such things are more appropriate in other
forums. Such things tend to be self-promotional in any case and generally
aren't intended to solicit genuine dialogue.
CROSSPOSTING
Inappropriate cross-posting to other newsgroups may either be rejected or
the list of newsgroups may be trimmed before approval. If trimmed and
approved, the list of newsgroups where the post is considered off topic
will be removed and the poster is warned that their posting will only
appear in the unelided newsgroups.
EXCESSIVE QUOTING AND TOP POSTING
Replies that are top posted, or contain an excessive amount of quoted
material, will not be rejected for those reasons but a warning may be sent
to the poster. We reserve the right to trim or even delete any quoted
material we may deem excessive. An explanation of why we dislike excessive
quoting and top posting is on Google's web site, among others:
http://www.google.com/googlegroups/posting_style.html#summar ize
http://web.presby.edu/~nnqadmin/nnq/nquote.html
OFF TOPIC
If the posting is, in our judgment, off-topic for the newsgroup then we may
reject it. On occasion we do allow follow-up posts to threads to drift off
topic, but are less likely to allow a new thread to be started that begins
off topic.
OTHER
Since it is not possible for us to anticipate and itemize all possible
reasons for rejection, we must reserve the right to reject for reasons not
previously listed. We will however strive to allow as much dialogue as
humanly possible since we realize that posters and readers would abandon
any newsgroup that is moderated in an ad hoc or unjust manner.
Thank you for reading this policy document.
|
|
| | Topic: [MOD] How to get good advice from m.e.m. v.1.01 |
|---|
| [MOD] How to get good advice from m.e.m. v.1.01 [message #1106] |
Sat, 19 June 2010 17:48 |
stj
Messages: 10
Registered: March 2008 |
Junior Member |
|
|
If you are looking for business advice, do the following:
1) Give as much detail as you can. Take your time. The more information
you give, the better advice regulars here will be able to give you.
Describe your problem as if you were telling it to Sherlock Holmes in his
study. NEVER assume regulars are telepathic! All we know about you and
your problem is what you tell us. If you have a website, give us its URL.
If you have print ads, text of mailings, radio ads, or TV ads, provide
hyperlinks to jpeg, mp3, and mpeg/asf/mov of them. You will NOT bore us
with details. Oh, and remember this newsgroup is an international
newsgroup so don't assume people telepathically know which country you're
in.
2) Don't necessarily expect to receive answers with your first post.
Expect instead to receive questions. Answer these questions promptly and
expect more in return. Once the regulars feel they have an adequate
understanding of your situation and problem, they then might feel they can
offer you some useful advise.
3) Be active. After you post, check this newsgroup at least once a day and
reply to all posts. Take the time to give detailed replies. Don't rush
here either. Give as full of a reply as possible. The more you're active
and the more in-depth your replies, the more regulars will participate in
your thread and the more help you'll receive.
4) Keep it clean. The ones that are probably going to help you the most
will be the professionals that frequent this newsgroup. Unless you'd like
to be put into their kill-files, treat them with respect and don't waste
their time. Many of these professionals regularly check this group from
work during the little breaks in their workday. While more details are
better than too few, adding too much unrelated junk will only confuse the
situation and reduce the usefulness, readability, and value of your post.
Take a moment and streamline your replies. Reduce the header down to just
who is saying which lines. Do NOT simply repost the entire message if
you're only referring to a part of it. Without distorting what they wrote,
trim down what they said to just what you're replying to. Also, do NOT top
post. Top posting forces people to scroll down then back up to your reply.
Think logical progression of thought. Again, it will reduce the time the
professionals need to spend reading your post thus more time they'll have -
during their coffee break -- to reply to your post.
5) Return and let us know what happened. Title your post the same as your
original one and add "[update]" at the end of the subject line. Again, put
as much effort into it as you'd like regulars to give to their replies.
Tell what worked, what didn't, ups, downs, and surprises. Use this as an
opportunity to ask further questions. Bless us with the pearls of wisdom
you learned along the way. Also, remember this is a nice way to thank
those that helped you. Some regulars sometimes feel used and cheap when
those they help never return to let them know what happened. They also
remember those that do and next time you have another problem, they'll be
that much more willing to devote time and effort to help you when you come
around again.
Lastly, remember that the advice you're getting here is worth exactly what
you paid for it. While professionals do frequent this newsgroup, they do
so at their leisure and their advice is informal. If you want better
advice, hire a professional.
Scott Jensen, co-moderator
misc.entrepreneurs.moderated
|
|
| | Topic: MOD: Business Newsgroup Policies |
|---|
| MOD: Business Newsgroup Policies [message #1101] |
Sat, 22 May 2010 17:48 |
Jim Logajan
Messages: 17
Registered: March 2008 |
Junior Member |
|
|
INTRODUCTION
------------
The newsgroups misc.business.marketing.moderated, misc.business.moderated,
misc.business.consulting, and misc.entrepreneurs.moderated are moderated
discussion groups. This periodic post summarizes the current posting
policies all posters are expected to follow for these four newsgroups.
Please read this policy document before posting.
James Hill, Scott Jensen, Jim Logajan, and Nikolai Chuvakhin are the current
business newsgroups volunteer moderators. You may contact us collectively
by sending e-mail to: business-moderators at Lugoj com (substitute "@" for
" at " and insert a "." between Lugoj and com).
If your post does not appear within 48 hours and you haven't seen a
rejection e-mail from us, then it is possible your post never made it to us
or the rejection never made it to you. In such cases you should e-mail us
at the address listed above. On rare occasions a post that is borderline
may require discussion among the moderators, which may take a few days to
run to completion.
To help you determine which newsgroup your post would be most appropriate
in and what is acceptable to post, excerpts from the original charters are
included below, followed by a list of things that will be rejected from all
four groups:
MISC.BUSINESS.MODERATED
-----------------------
"The newsgroup misc.business.moderated [is] a moderated forum for
discussion and debate involving all aspects of business not presently being
served by other business newsgroups. It [is] a newsgroup where professors,
managers, entrepreneurs, students and anyone interested in business can
establish contacts, share, learn and exchange practical and theoretical
business thoughts from the world over."
MISC.BUSINESS.CONSULTING
------------------------
"Misc.business.consulting is a forum for discussions concerning the
business issues of consulting. More specifically, this refers to matters
such as tax rulings, clarification of accounting treatments, techniques for
client management, discussions of ethics, advice for beginning consultants,
contract provisions, etc. This should not be taken to totally exclude
technical issues from being raised, when they are framed in the context of
the business of consulting."
MISC.BUSINESS.MARKETING.MODERATED
---------------------------------
"The newsgroup misc.business.marketing.moderated [is] a moderated forum for
discussion and debate involving all aspects of marketing. It [is] a
newsgroup where professors, managers, entrepreneurs, students and anyone
interested in marketing can establish contacts, share, learn and exchange
practical and theoretical marketing thoughts from the world over."
MISC.ENTREPRENEURS.MODERATED
----------------------------
"The newsgroup is for the purposes of moderated discussion of
entrepreneurial and small-business topics, like: starting a business,
finding capital, running operations, controlling costs, obtaining
appropriate products and services, handling employees, filing patents,
handling tax laws, obtaining credit-card and check processing, etc."
MESSAGE CATEGORIES SUBJECT TO REJECTION
---------------------------------------
The following message categories are subject to rejection (or warnings,
where noted) in all four newsgroups. Except where noted, an attempt will be
made to e-mail the original poster (OP) when their post has been rejected.
SPAM
Posts that are obvious spam are rejected without informing the poster. Spam
is considered to include advertising and promotional messages and messages
sent in bulk to multiple destinations (whether the content is topical or
not).
ADVERTISING
The rare posts that appear to us to be sincerely misdirected ads or "job
wanted" posts will be rejected with a response. Likewise, responses to
posts seeking product or service recommendations that appear to be attempts
to sell the OP products or services will be rejected. If you are trying to
sell something to the OP, you should contact them directly if they have
indicated such sales pitches are welcome.
PERSONAL ATTACKS
Excessively personal attacks (ad hominem) will be rejected. It is quite
acceptable to post disagreements to a poster's ideas or advice, but it is
not acceptable to attack the poster personally.
SURVEYS
Requests for readers to fill out a survey (whether by e-mail or on a web
site) may be rejected because such requests will yield a statistically
invalid population of responses - yielding dangerously misleading results
for the poster and a waste of time for respondents. Other times these
surveys are thinly disguised mechanisms for promoting some product or
service.
MIME/HTML
If an on topic posting arrives in MIME or HTML, we will try to clean it up
to plain text if it appears to be the first posting by a poster. A warning
notice is issued to the poster. We reserve the right to reject subsequent
MIME/HTML postings by such persons. Usenet is traditionally plain-text and
the software used by many readers does not support proper rendition of
MIME/HTML.
NEWS, ARTICLES AND ANNOUNCEMENTS
Business news, articles, and announcements are rejected on the grounds that
these are discussion groups, and such things are more appropriate in other
forums. Such things tend to be self-promotional in any case and generally
aren't intended to solicit genuine dialogue.
CROSSPOSTING
Inappropriate cross-posting to other newsgroups may either be rejected or
the list of newsgroups may be trimmed before approval. If trimmed and
approved, the list of newsgroups where the post is considered off topic
will be removed and the poster is warned that their posting will only
appear in the unelided newsgroups.
EXCESSIVE QUOTING AND TOP POSTING
Replies that are top posted, or contain an excessive amount of quoted
material, will not be rejected for those reasons but a warning may be sent
to the poster. We reserve the right to trim or even delete any quoted
material we may deem excessive. An explanation of why we dislike excessive
quoting and top posting is on Google's web site, among others:
http://www.google.com/googlegroups/posting_style.html#summar ize
http://web.presby.edu/~nnqadmin/nnq/nquote.html
OFF TOPIC
If the posting is, in our judgment, off-topic for the newsgroup then we may
reject it. On occasion we do allow follow-up posts to threads to drift off
topic, but are less likely to allow a new thread to be started that begins
off topic.
OTHER
Since it is not possible for us to anticipate and itemize all possible
reasons for rejection, we must reserve the right to reject for reasons not
previously listed. We will however strive to allow as much dialogue as
humanly possible since we realize that posters and readers would abandon
any newsgroup that is moderated in an ad hoc or unjust manner.
Thank you for reading this policy document.
|
|
| | Topic: [MOD] How to get good advice from m.e.m. v.1.01 |
|---|
| [MOD] How to get good advice from m.e.m. v.1.01 [message #1100] |
Sat, 22 May 2010 17:48 |
stj
Messages: 10
Registered: March 2008 |
Junior Member |
|
|
If you are looking for business advice, do the following:
1) Give as much detail as you can. Take your time. The more information
you give, the better advice regulars here will be able to give you.
Describe your problem as if you were telling it to Sherlock Holmes in his
study. NEVER assume regulars are telepathic! All we know about you and
your problem is what you tell us. If you have a website, give us its URL.
If you have print ads, text of mailings, radio ads, or TV ads, provide
hyperlinks to jpeg, mp3, and mpeg/asf/mov of them. You will NOT bore us
with details. Oh, and remember this newsgroup is an international
newsgroup so don't assume people telepathically know which country you're
in.
2) Don't necessarily expect to receive answers with your first post.
Expect instead to receive questions. Answer these questions promptly and
expect more in return. Once the regulars feel they have an adequate
understanding of your situation and problem, they then might feel they can
offer you some useful advise.
3) Be active. After you post, check this newsgroup at least once a day and
reply to all posts. Take the time to give detailed replies. Don't rush
here either. Give as full of a reply as possible. The more you're active
and the more in-depth your replies, the more regulars will participate in
your thread and the more help you'll receive.
4) Keep it clean. The ones that are probably going to help you the most
will be the professionals that frequent this newsgroup. Unless you'd like
to be put into their kill-files, treat them with respect and don't waste
their time. Many of these professionals regularly check this group from
work during the little breaks in their workday. While more details are
better than too few, adding too much unrelated junk will only confuse the
situation and reduce the usefulness, readability, and value of your post.
Take a moment and streamline your replies. Reduce the header down to just
who is saying which lines. Do NOT simply repost the entire message if
you're only referring to a part of it. Without distorting what they wrote,
trim down what they said to just what you're replying to. Also, do NOT top
post. Top posting forces people to scroll down then back up to your reply.
Think logical progression of thought. Again, it will reduce the time the
professionals need to spend reading your post thus more time they'll have -
during their coffee break -- to reply to your post.
5) Return and let us know what happened. Title your post the same as your
original one and add "[update]" at the end of the subject line. Again, put
as much effort into it as you'd like regulars to give to their replies.
Tell what worked, what didn't, ups, downs, and surprises. Use this as an
opportunity to ask further questions. Bless us with the pearls of wisdom
you learned along the way. Also, remember this is a nice way to thank
those that helped you. Some regulars sometimes feel used and cheap when
those they help never return to let them know what happened. They also
remember those that do and next time you have another problem, they'll be
that much more willing to devote time and effort to help you when you come
around again.
Lastly, remember that the advice you're getting here is worth exactly what
you paid for it. While professionals do frequent this newsgroup, they do
so at their leisure and their advice is informal. If you want better
advice, hire a professional.
Scott Jensen, co-moderator
misc.entrepreneurs.moderated
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| | Topic: MOD: Business Newsgroup Policies |
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| MOD: Business Newsgroup Policies [message #1097] |
Sat, 24 April 2010 17:48 |
Jim Logajan
Messages: 17
Registered: March 2008 |
Junior Member |
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INTRODUCTION
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The newsgroups misc.business.marketing.moderated, misc.business.moderated,
misc.business.consulting, and misc.entrepreneurs.moderated are moderated
discussion groups. This periodic post summarizes the current posting
policies all posters are expected to follow for these four newsgroups.
Please read this policy document before posting.
James Hill, Scott Jensen, Jim Logajan, and Nikolai Chuvakhin are the current
business newsgroups volunteer moderators. You may contact us collectively
by sending e-mail to: business-moderators at Lugoj com (substitute "@" for
" at " and insert a "." between Lugoj and com).
If your post does not appear within 48 hours and you haven't seen a
rejection e-mail from us, then it is possible your post never made it to us
or the rejection never made it to you. In such cases you should e-mail us
at the address listed above. On rare occasions a post that is borderline
may require discussion among the moderators, which may take a few days to
run to completion.
To help you determine which newsgroup your post would be most appropriate
in and what is acceptable to post, excerpts from the original charters are
included below, followed by a list of things that will be rejected from all
four groups:
MISC.BUSINESS.MODERATED
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"The newsgroup misc.business.moderated [is] a moderated forum for
discussion and debate involving all aspects of business not presently being
served by other business newsgroups. It [is] a newsgroup where professors,
managers, entrepreneurs, students and anyone interested in business can
establish contacts, share, learn and exchange practical and theoretical
business thoughts from the world over."
MISC.BUSINESS.CONSULTING
------------------------
"Misc.business.consulting is a forum for discussions concerning the
business issues of consulting. More specifically, this refers to matters
such as tax rulings, clarification of accounting treatments, techniques for
client management, discussions of ethics, advice for beginning consultants,
contract provisions, etc. This should not be taken to totally exclude
technical issues from being raised, when they are framed in the context of
the business of consulting."
MISC.BUSINESS.MARKETING.MODERATED
---------------------------------
"The newsgroup misc.business.marketing.moderated [is] a moderated forum for
discussion and debate involving all aspects of marketing. It [is] a
newsgroup where professors, managers, entrepreneurs, students and anyone
interested in marketing can establish contacts, share, learn and exchange
practical and theoretical marketing thoughts from the world over."
MISC.ENTREPRENEURS.MODERATED
----------------------------
"The newsgroup is for the purposes of moderated discussion of
entrepreneurial and small-business topics, like: starting a business,
finding capital, running operations, controlling costs, obtaining
appropriate products and services, handling employees, filing patents,
handling tax laws, obtaining credit-card and check processing, etc."
MESSAGE CATEGORIES SUBJECT TO REJECTION
---------------------------------------
The following message categories are subject to rejection (or warnings,
where noted) in all four newsgroups. Except where noted, an attempt will be
made to e-mail the original poster (OP) when their post has been rejected.
SPAM
Posts that are obvious spam are rejected without informing the poster. Spam
is considered to include advertising and promotional messages and messages
sent in bulk to multiple destinations (whether the content is topical or
not).
ADVERTISING
The rare posts that appear to us to be sincerely misdirected ads or "job
wanted" posts will be rejected with a response. Likewise, responses to
posts seeking product or service recommendations that appear to be attempts
to sell the OP products or services will be rejected. If you are trying to
sell something to the OP, you should contact them directly if they have
indicated such sales pitches are welcome.
PERSONAL ATTACKS
Excessively personal attacks (ad hominem) will be rejected. It is quite
acceptable to post disagreements to a poster's ideas or advice, but it is
not acceptable to attack the poster personally.
SURVEYS
Requests for readers to fill out a survey (whether by e-mail or on a web
site) may be rejected because such requests will yield a statistically
invalid population of responses - yielding dangerously misleading results
for the poster and a waste of time for respondents. Other times these
surveys are thinly disguised mechanisms for promoting some product or
service.
MIME/HTML
If an on topic posting arrives in MIME or HTML, we will try to clean it up
to plain text if it appears to be the first posting by a poster. A warning
notice is issued to the poster. We reserve the right to reject subsequent
MIME/HTML postings by such persons. Usenet is traditionally plain-text and
the software used by many readers does not support proper rendition of
MIME/HTML.
NEWS, ARTICLES AND ANNOUNCEMENTS
Business news, articles, and announcements are rejected on the grounds that
these are discussion groups, and such things are more appropriate in other
forums. Such things tend to be self-promotional in any case and generally
aren't intended to solicit genuine dialogue.
CROSSPOSTING
Inappropriate cross-posting to other newsgroups may either be rejected or
the list of newsgroups may be trimmed before approval. If trimmed and
approved, the list of newsgroups where the post is considered off topic
will be removed and the poster is warned that their posting will only
appear in the unelided newsgroups.
EXCESSIVE QUOTING AND TOP POSTING
Replies that are top posted, or contain an excessive amount of quoted
material, will not be rejected for those reasons but a warning may be sent
to the poster. We reserve the right to trim or even delete any quoted
material we may deem excessive. An explanation of why we dislike excessive
quoting and top posting is on Google's web site, among others:
http://www.google.com/googlegroups/posting_style.html#summar ize
http://web.presby.edu/~nnqadmin/nnq/nquote.html
OFF TOPIC
If the posting is, in our judgment, off-topic for the newsgroup then we may
reject it. On occasion we do allow follow-up posts to threads to drift off
topic, but are less likely to allow a new thread to be started that begins
off topic.
OTHER
Since it is not possible for us to anticipate and itemize all possible
reasons for rejection, we must reserve the right to reject for reasons not
previously listed. We will however strive to allow as much dialogue as
humanly possible since we realize that posters and readers would abandon
any newsgroup that is moderated in an ad hoc or unjust manner.
Thank you for reading this policy document.
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| | Topic: [MOD] How to get good advice from m.e.m. v.1.01 |
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| [MOD] How to get good advice from m.e.m. v.1.01 [message #1096] |
Sat, 24 April 2010 17:48 |
stj
Messages: 10
Registered: March 2008 |
Junior Member |
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If you are looking for business advice, do the following:
1) Give as much detail as you can. Take your time. The more information
you give, the better advice regulars here will be able to give you.
Describe your problem as if you were telling it to Sherlock Holmes in his
study. NEVER assume regulars are telepathic! All we know about you and
your problem is what you tell us. If you have a website, give us its URL.
If you have print ads, text of mailings, radio ads, or TV ads, provide
hyperlinks to jpeg, mp3, and mpeg/asf/mov of them. You will NOT bore us
with details. Oh, and remember this newsgroup is an international
newsgroup so don't assume people telepathically know which country you're
in.
2) Don't necessarily expect to receive answers with your first post.
Expect instead to receive questions. Answer these questions promptly and
expect more in return. Once the regulars feel they have an adequate
understanding of your situation and problem, they then might feel they can
offer you some useful advise.
3) Be active. After you post, check this newsgroup at least once a day and
reply to all posts. Take the time to give detailed replies. Don't rush
here either. Give as full of a reply as possible. The more you're active
and the more in-depth your replies, the more regulars will participate in
your thread and the more help you'll receive.
4) Keep it clean. The ones that are probably going to help you the most
will be the professionals that frequent this newsgroup. Unless you'd like
to be put into their kill-files, treat them with respect and don't waste
their time. Many of these professionals regularly check this group from
work during the little breaks in their workday. While more details are
better than too few, adding too much unrelated junk will only confuse the
situation and reduce the usefulness, readability, and value of your post.
Take a moment and streamline your replies. Reduce the header down to just
who is saying which lines. Do NOT simply repost the entire message if
you're only referring to a part of it. Without distorting what they wrote,
trim down what they said to just what you're replying to. Also, do NOT top
post. Top posting forces people to scroll down then back up to your reply.
Think logical progression of thought. Again, it will reduce the time the
professionals need to spend reading your post thus more time they'll have -
during their coffee break -- to reply to your post.
5) Return and let us know what happened. Title your post the same as your
original one and add "[update]" at the end of the subject line. Again, put
as much effort into it as you'd like regulars to give to their replies.
Tell what worked, what didn't, ups, downs, and surprises. Use this as an
opportunity to ask further questions. Bless us with the pearls of wisdom
you learned along the way. Also, remember this is a nice way to thank
those that helped you. Some regulars sometimes feel used and cheap when
those they help never return to let them know what happened. They also
remember those that do and next time you have another problem, they'll be
that much more willing to devote time and effort to help you when you come
around again.
Lastly, remember that the advice you're getting here is worth exactly what
you paid for it. While professionals do frequent this newsgroup, they do
so at their leisure and their advice is informal. If you want better
advice, hire a professional.
Scott Jensen, co-moderator
misc.entrepreneurs.moderated
|
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| | Topic: Vision |
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| Vision [message #813] |
Wed, 10 March 2010 14:06 |
Risa Peris
Messages: 1
Registered: March 2010 |
Junior Member |
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The first thing an entrepreneur needs is vision. Vision concerns how
things will be in the future. An entrepreneur is forward looking.
Vision is similar to dreaming but vision is about action and not
passivity. I literally started two businesses in one month =96 both
driven by two different visions.
I felt my term as an employee was over. I knew I was entrepreneur
material. I never did the least amount of work possible. I did the
most amount of work possible. I was a decision maker and not a
follower. I was a creative problem solver and not a drone.
Now was I financially prepared to take such a calculated risk? Not
necessarily. But I did because I knew I had to act on my vision. The
time had come. Seth Godin says that faith is required but I think
within that faith is a strong element of courage. Faith is about
giving yourself over. Courage is about guiding the process of giving
yourself over.
A vision must include courage.
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| | Topic: Re: How to pay someone to write an article for your website? |
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| Re: How to pay someone to write an article for your website? [message #690] |
Tue, 17 February 2009 11:30 |
whizkid
Messages: 1
Registered: February 2009 |
Junior Member |
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On Jan 18, 12:59 pm, nonse...@mynonsense.net wrote:
> Say I have a tennis website and pay a pro $100 to write a short how-to
> article on how to grip the racquet. Now do I own all the copyright/
> royalites for this article once I pay him? Can I later decide to
> include his article in a downloadable book? Do I owe the original
> author any royalties for money I receive from his article?
If you're unsure you can add on the stipulation that you own all
rights to the article they produce.
You'd be surprised how many writers are just trying to make a buck and
don't care to give out rights to an article. They aren't really out
to make a name for themselves, unless it involves being copywriter of
the year.
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| | Topic: Re: Ideas on financing |
|---|
| Re: Ideas on financing [message #688] |
Thu, 29 January 2009 11:17 |
A Witt
Messages: 1
Registered: January 2009 |
Junior Member |
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|
"John A. Weeks III" <john@johnweeks.com> wrote:
> "A Witt" <awitt2@web.de> wrote:
>> We are from Germany and we are running an online-shop for several years.
>> For years, the idea is growing that we should produce our own products
>> (produce means: have a factory in China, that will produce for us).
>>
>> And now the situation here: banks are not willing to give loans based on
>> business idea. And the other problem is, the necessary amount is too low
>> for
>> VC companies or others.
>>
>> Whom would you contact?
>
> Your personal banker, your relatives, and your credit card company.
> Companies of this size are almost always financed in one of two
> ways...bootstrapping or love money. Bootstrapping is where you
> have an existing business, and you plow the profits back in for
> expansion. Love money is money that friends and relatives give
> to you because they love you, and not because they are investing.
> Your personal assets can also be used, such as using your savings,
> taking a mortgage on your house, or running up credit card debt.
Thank you,
These are obviously the ways. When I was young, it was easy to get a loan
from a bank here in Germany. The director looked at the business and the
person and decided (ok, there was paperwork to do).
Thanks
Alexander
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| | Topic: Re: Organizing business information |
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| Re: Organizing business information [message #687] |
Thu, 11 December 2008 21:44 |
NC
Messages: 13
Registered: March 2008 |
Junior Member |
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On Dec 8, 6:44 am, AsymF <fearful.asymme...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I am trying to develop business ideas, organize information,
> and get lists together to grow my business and possibly even
> branch into new areas. The problem I am having, is keeping
> everything easily organizable and the information categorized.
> I am referring mostly to digital sources of information I
> come across.
These are mutually exclusive requirements. Computers are not human
brains, so a digital archive that is "easily organizable" should under
no circumstances be categorized; it should be INDEXED (as in search
engine) and possibly tagged (if you find it useful and have time,
energy, and tools for it; personally, I find tagging a waste of time,
but I've met people that swear by it).
Consider this; you just found a story about, say, sales of European
cars in America. If you categorize it under "cars", it's not going to
show under "Europe", "America", or "sales". Also, what happens if
three years down the road you're no longer interested in sales of
European cars in America, but rather in sales of used BMWs in
California?
> Anyone know a good way, or program, to keep links and clips
> and notes on those pieces of data, in one clean searchable
> categorized location that is easy to add/remove from?
Google Desktop will give you searchability, but not categorization.
It also won't care how you store your data; it will index it wherever
it finds it.
Cheers,
NC
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| | Topic: Re: Selling clothing or license the rights |
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| Re: Selling clothing or license the rights [message #634] |
Sun, 04 May 2008 13:19 |
mtbc
Messages: 21
Registered: March 2008 |
Junior Member |
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devinsawyer@gmail.com writes:
> I have no idea how to begin, other then with my idea. I truly
> believe the brand will sell the clothes.
You might, but nobody's going to put much money into this unless you can
get some real market validation. You need to find an affordable way to
get real evidence that the brand really is so potent.
Mark
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| | Topic: Is there any entrepreneur in Mainland China? |
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| | Topic: Re: Need help with Accounting for my Freelance work |
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| Re: Need help with Accounting for my Freelance work [message #557] |
Sun, 16 March 2008 11:39 |
Deepa
Messages: 1
Registered: March 2008 |
Junior Member |
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John & Mark
Thank you very much for the response and guidelines.
I am "just picking up pace" in the buissness.
So before I could settle down for hired help, I guess I have to do
this myself.
I shall defineltly look into the links you have provided. At this
stage for me, evey link is a great help
Thanks again for the time taken
Regards,
Deepa
PS:- Anyone from India, reading this thread, Please do feel free to
respond.
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